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Saturday, 26 September 2009

  • Offended by a rhythm or a beat... or should you?

    A girl from my church came back from a conference she attended in the weeks prior.  She's an intelligent girl and has a very keen sense of awareness in many things.  She has a heart of gold but not too much sense when something that should be discerned better even if what was heard sounded convincingly intelligent...

    Here is what ensued....

    She approached me after church one sunday, ecstatic to see me and began to unload all that she was up to.  She reveals to me that she was at a conference where she learned alot.  Then proceeded to ask me a couple theological questions.  I gave both arguments from both theological camps (Arminian and Reformed) upon the topic of her question.  And then in a roundabout way asked me about music which from the speaker she heard, claimed that it was unBiblical and completely wrong for the church to have a drumset in it.  And then asserted that he had a point.  His argument, music with a beat as seen in clubs and what not stir up sensuality when one moves the hips.  She agreed with this.

    Yes yes yes, I'm aware of what is going through your head reader... relax before you go off and bash this person... put away your judgmental finger for a minute and sit still and listen before you suffer from foot-in-mouth syndrome... listen before you pour forth speech that is unwarranted and ignorant and unintelligent...

    She then proceeds to ask me of my opinions.  I tell her that this speaker is flat out wrong in many accounts, Scripturally, missionally, culturally, musically, and theologically.

    I began to unload the notion that a beat and a rhythm is by all means first off sound arranged in a progressive sequential pattern.  The example I used was the difference between my friend David's song O Praise Him which uses the straight 4 on the floor club beat that can also be used in any radio popular song as well.  The difference is that with O Praise Him, it's for lack of a better phrase, a redeemed club beat while something from Lil' wayne, maybe not so much especially when he's talking about smack that and cappin that (i'm aware that may not be what he raps about, but I don't listen to Lil' Wayne so...)  She looked at me somewhat puzzled and asked, "But what does one do when they dance?"  I look at her and cautiously reply, "Shake their hips?"  "Yes, and that can be seen in secular clubs where there's alot of senuality."  "Yea, and that same beat is found in many of David Crowder's songs just the same and the response is different."  what's the difference?

    Church music is music for the church... there is no form in which music should follow per se.  3 chords and the truth they used to call it... now its tracks and loops and programming and the truth... The thing I told her she needed to realize is that music is music... Music is a gift given to us by God and it is good... when it is unredeemed... it is our job as Christians to redeem it.  the straight 4 club beat can be used in church... just as much as it is used in the clubs as well.  Heck... especially with Crowder... he took that same beat and played it at the House of Blues or the Roxy or the Fillmore... and it was grand as far as I can tell...

     

    the conversation ended with me warning her not to adopt traditionalism as a means of gauging what is good and what is not... I told her the error of believing such ridiculous concepts and then told her that as a Christian, your job is to redeem wherever you are with whatever you got with whomever you're with... The guy was a traditional moralist and in turn only views things from a traditionalistic basis forgetting that he's living in the now.

    to be offended by a beat or a rhythm is short-sighted... and hinders the mission of Redemption Christians are called to...

    she got my drift...

Saturday, 19 September 2009

  • Abilities

    Human drive
    Passion
    Desire
    Emotive expression
    Abilities

    This has to be more than just an evolutionary or cosmological happenstance. 

    I mean, the other side would definitely assert that the human's abilities are indeed a result of countless milleniums of constant evolutionary processes from the single-celled organism all the way up to our current state.  But to cap it off and suggest that there is nothing else BUT that is rather pretentious and slightly undermining the philosophical notion of entertaining the opposing view... which philosophy when done right should allow...

    So why is it then the human drive to excell is so ingrained in the psyche?
    When a dancer dances with grace, flow, strength, and ease; how is that possible with the Darwinian evolutionary philosophy in mind?
    When a singer sings... when an architect plans... when a football player moves... when a musician composes... when a baker bakes... when anyone of these humans do what they do with more drive and motivation that goes beyond just survival like an impala escaping a lion's grasp... how can one explain this with the Darwinian evolutionary explanation?

    It's simpler to suggest that humanity has been created in the image of God.  The Bible speaks of a Creator Who desired by His free will to created beings that reflect His glory through the image He has stamped upon humanity when we created Adam and Eve...  this explains desires, passions, drives, motivations etc because God has desires and passions and is driven and has motivation... and our ways have been gifted to us by God as far as our abilities to do thing...

    now our nature... that's something else... but for now...

    It's amazing to me that humans can exhibit a drive to excel in artistry and other fields of life with far more organized understanding and mental prowess than that of the animal kingdom and yet, evolution would suggest that a singer/doctor/college student is in the same boat as a toad or a zebra as far as evoltion is concerned...

Monday, 31 August 2009

  • Open-mindedness=Judgmentality

    Those claiming to be open-minded are probably the most judgmental of ALL of us...

    again... hypocrisy up the rear!!!!

    Those promoting "sexual freedom" judge the "prudes" for waiting till marriage...  this gets me the most.  It's as if the sexual liberators think those who are waiting till marriage are some second-class citizen or something in which their opinions don't matter... 

    Evangelical Christians start talking about sexual purity till marriage are judged the heaviest.  It's as if the concept of abstinence is this virus that needs to be stamped out by those who wanna flaunt their gentalia at every Tom, Dick, and Jane out there thinking that somehow that's freedom but God-forbid... or if you're atheist... Nothing forbid you stay a virgin till marriage... wow... really??? 

    And yet, when Christians just simply wanna discuss the issue... the other side directly goes on the offensive and claim that those who wanna be abstinent are impeding on the sexual right of others... seriously???  really???

Sunday, 30 August 2009

  • WHAT ABOUT WHAT I BELIEVE?!

    I remember the moment when I had the idea to do something totally new.  It was unheard of before.  The ones around me thought it to be so completely revolutionary and just totally out of this world.  It's a concept that's been unheard of and to mention it brought about sheer joy to me.

    It would be brilliant to do.  I didn't need to do it... I just wanted to do it.  Noone could really stop me from doing it.  I mean, I'm the only one there is that's fully capable of doing whatever I wanted to do.  So I did it.  Again, such an unheard of thing.  I created what I had envisioned... and man was it good... like not just those kinds of good where you shrug your shoulders, but the kind of good that causes the skies to applaud.  And applaud they did... what I did was amazing and I like it.  I enjoy what I do anyways, but this was different.  And it made me smile.

    Then I would do something beyond what was already unheard of which was to make a living mirror of myself.  I put thought, a bit more effort, planning, and an even greater smile to this crowning project.  And create him I did.  He looked good.  Alot of what he was like, I could see myself in.  My smile was deeper than what could have been imagined.  But I enjoyed this.  He was new, different, and I personally stamped my seal of approval.  I loved him, though he was alone and that didn't seem right to me.  So I did another genius move.  I'll bring him someone that'll compliment and meet his needs.  And I did, and again, loved her too.  And enjoyed just the freedom of my relationship with these two.  It was grand.

    The only dread I had was the failure of these two to be unable to pull through with the one thing that I told them not to do.  "Don't eat from that tree..." I specifically told him.  I do remember telling him don't eat it or else he'll die.  Look at it all you want, touch it if you want to but just don't eat from the flippin tree... was that so hard?  Apparently, but what broke me even more was he stood by and did nothing.  I knew there was that pesky snake slithering around, a minor annoyance.  I was in a relationship with them, they knew me and I knew them.  I loved them, but they flipped me off as they ate.  Granted they were lied to, but I did tell them not to eat, what more was there to be needed?  What killed me the most was the fact that now instead of embracing them, I have to tearfully and heartbreaking separate myself from them.  They look so shameful and pathetic and I just can't bring myself to look at them in that state... fig leaves?  Seriously kids, that's the best you can do?  FREAKIN' FIG LEAVES?!  Now at that moment, in love, I covered them with the skin of an animal.  That would be the first time they saw blood.  The look on their faces as I covered their naked bodies broke me even more.

    I had to do something.  I loved them so much.  And as they grew, they became more and more horrid.  I couldn't see myself in them anymore.  They got more and more rancid and the stench of their hearts and motives was too disgusting for me to even bear.  So I ended it save for 8 people.  Wasn't the best choice since the guy was a shameful drunk, but even still, I loved him anyways since I chose him to carry on humanity.  He knew enough of me to know what I wanted out of him and he did it but still, something was needed and I knew it would be the hardest thing I could ever do, but it would turn out to be good for them.

    The moment of truth arrived and I made the ultimate sacrifice.  I sent him down there.  And He performed perfectly.  Never failed me once.  Never faltered.  Never surrendered.  Never compromised.  Never did apart from what He knew I required of Him.  And I loved Him and everything He did down there.  Flawless perfection in His style, His execution of what He did and made me proud.  I wanted Him to keep doing what He was doing, but the time was nigh, and He had to face what I needed Him... wanted Him to face.  They were suffering and I loved them, as did He.  He had to.  He knew it... I knew it... though the pain of it would be gut-wrenching and I knew I couldn't bear to watch.  He could handle what was coming, though in His current condition, the stress would be excruciating.  But necessary... for them... for those I love.  Then they did it.  I knew it was coming and they did what I knew they would do.  Slung Him up there like a rag doll.  Again, He performed well.  Did it flawlessly the way I knew He would.  What angered me the most was the fact that they ignored Him.  I could have ended it all right there.  But He wanted them to be forgiven... He cried that as He hung there.  Of course they don't know what they're doing... if they only could comprehend what they were doing.  They didn't... they COULDN'T... it was beyond their understanding... their spirituality couldn't handle it.  It would much too overwhelming that they would die under the weight of it.... but He did it.  I gave them the ultimate gift.

    But as I look on since that moment... it's still crazy how more of them WON'T even consider me.  They think that they hold the ultimate belief or that what they feel matters more than what I feel.  They think that just being sincere is enough.  Don't they know that they could be SINCERELY WRONG?  Granted the people I'm asking to show me to them are flawed and not altogether perfect.  But like they are?  Those who deny me are walking around like major fools thinking that it's just them... those who don't know really don't want to find out... those who know ABOUT me are twisting my intentions and my ways into this proverbial mutated... THING that is a perversion of what I want out of them.  Those who do know me... I'm surely helping those who ask. 

    And now as I watch it pains me even more... and so I ask

    WHAT ABOUT WHAT I BELIEVE?????  HAVE YOU EVER CONSIDERED WHAT I THINK/FEEL/BELIEVE/ATEST TO?????  DOESN'T IT MATTER WHAT I SAY?  DOESN'T MY OPINION COUNT?

Thursday, 27 August 2009

  • The Relativistic Love of God

    So apparently God is a hypocrite...

    You've heard it said before... that sin is still sin and yet it's ok because God created you that way... that you have a pre-disposition for being a murderer or a glutton or a lesbian or a liar... and that God created you that way and accepts you for what you are and will gladly let you into heaven because you're a liar/murder/sexual deviant/idolator...

    Seriously?  So a holy, righteous, just, perfect God Who's very character is belittled and insulted by the very sins that caused us to rebel against him is just ok because the way one's proclivities are????

    And yet, it's quite clear through one's own conscience that certain things are in fact wrong to do and one knows it... whether or not one acknowledges it is another post for another time... but one this is for certain, someone who tells a lie knows their lying and in turn feels a sense of guilt and even more so, a sense that they could be caught in the lie...

    but that's ok because God loves you and accepts you for who/what you are right?

    But that makes God a hypocrite... and in fact, a perfect God which we all fairly would agree is true that hypocrisy is not perfect, yet such ideals listed up makes it so because why would God condemn liars, fornicators, blasphemers etc to an eternal conscience torment of hell if He didn't accept the way they were?  He wouldn't if He wasn't holy, perfect, Just, righteous...

    The idea is simple... the God you worship and deduce the crazy idea that God would accept sinful human beings into heaven is atrocious and for those who would suggest such a thing are probably the most unloving of humans ever to walk the earth... why?  To allow murderers, thieves, adulterers, blasphemers into perfection is hell....

    I'm so surprised that some people would in the name of tolerance and diversity would make the very God they think isn't ok with sin call Him to be the kind of God Who is ok with sin and everything that He stands for...

    thank you again pragmatic relativism for yet another display of dumbing people into rocks...

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    • Name: Eugene
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  • I'm an asian guy who loves Jesus, who loves His Word, loves His church and anything I can do to make the Kingdom of God come and be an avenue for His Will be done. I love His Fame and desire to make my life a life where Jesus is known and where He is to be known among all peoples... I hate religion... i despise Christianese... i hate personal experience as the law for living... i hate statistics... i hate opinions as the equation for living... i utterly despise Christians who take their cues from culture rather than Scripture...

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  • thinks the real webnut is webnut him/herself... a judgemental freak who is intolerant and un-diverse... loser... boo webnut
  • haven't pulsed in a bit... still want her... but wonders how to move on when she's still so prevalent?  sumthin Divine please...
  • God i'm still here... the same place I was in... can you do something?  I want her still... sigh...

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  • doral
    I probably could say more, but I don't think it would get us anywhere. I will leave you with your thoughts. We are on the same side are we not? We just understand things differently. God bless you.
    • Posted 8/13/2008 2:53 AM
    • by doral
  • doral
    Further to my reply to your comment, the permissive will of God is when you do something like changing jobs, moving to a different place, changing churches etc without consulting God about it. In some of these circumstances He will allow you do it so that He can teach you something through it. At ot
    • Posted 8/13/2008 12:41 AM
    • by doral
  • leadworshipper82
    @doral - which is permissed by God is it not?
  • doral
    If you have sought God about for instance, who you should marry, or to lead you to the job that He wants for you, then, if you have heard Him correctly, you would be in the perfect will of God for that part of your life. As for what you wear, eat or buy etc. that is simply your choice.
    • Posted 8/13/2008 12:22 AM
    • by doral
  • leadworshipper82
    @doral - God's perfect will is such like he wills that we come to faith in Christ... or that we are to go preach the Gospel and teach and make disciples... his permissive will is like that of marrying a person, a job you take, the jeans you wear, the call you take... that you are under his permissio
  • doral
    @leadworshipper82 - Well how do you understand the perfect will and the permissive will of God, I would be interested to know your feeling? Thanks for the reply though.
    • Posted 8/12/2008 6:36 PM
    • by doral
  • leadworshipper82
    @doral - ummm... i guess you and I are diverted on what we mean by permissive and perfect will then...
  • doral
    Yes, I know what you mean by feeling unused. I guess it depends on what you consider being 'used of God means'. I know that I had my own ideas of how I would like to be used of God. At this point it seems that God has different ideas of how He wants to use me. As far as being in God's will is conc
    • Posted 8/12/2008 8:38 AM
    • by doral
  • leadworshipper82
    @dorothy60@xanga - ummm... thank you...
  • dorothy60@xanga
    Hi Eugene, Here is something to reflect on. As I Reflect. As I reflect on the work of God, As I look back over time passed by. I see His gentle, guiding hand - In so many instances now gone by. I see the times I tried to change His mind...... By creating what I thought I needed. Each effort came to